NGADM13 unofficial ranking list

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Bart van Zon @SourJovis

Age 39, Male

Netherlands

Joined on 8/14/12

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Exp Points:: 45,952 / 100,000
Exp Rank:: 177
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NGADM13 unofficial ranking list

Posted by SourJovis - August 10th, 2013

The NGADM13 first round submissions have been judged. The nice thing about this contest is the entrants are paired up with an opponent, so winning is not just a matter of skill but you also have to get lucky with the opponent you get and how he/she performs. This keeps it unpredictable and exciting and provides a chance for the underdogs to make it far. To defeat this point, I make a ranking list based on the average score everyone got from the judges.

1. headphoamz--------------9.26
2. Kor-Rune--------------------8.87
3. SteamPianist--------------8.78
4. ZipZipper--------------------8.76
5. etherealwinds-------------8.73
6. SoundChris-----------------8.72
7. BlazingDragon------------8.68
8. Lashmush--------------------8.52
8. IglicaV-------------------------8.52
10. Blackhole12---------------8.41
11. The Bardic Kings-------8.40
12. SkyeWintrest-------------8.38
13. JacobCadmus------------8.37
14. Camoshark----------------8.33
14. MichaelJ-------------------8.33
16. PeterSatera---------------8.32
17. InYourDreams------------8.31
18. johnfn------------------------8.29
19. ForgottenDawn----------8.27
19. dj-Jo--------------------------8.27
21. acmeDyne-----------------8.23
22. midimachine-------------8.16
22. Breed-------------------------8.16
24. Duttonsayshi--------------8.05
25. RealFaction---------------8.00
25. TheBenjerman-----------8.00
27. InvisibleObserver-------7.89
28. papkee-----------------------7.88
29. Nimble-----------------------7.85
30. Sequenced-----------------7.84
30. aliaspharow---------------7.84
32. XsakuX-----------------------7.78
33. Hurks--------------------------7.77
34. skyood------------------------7.70
35. Mystek-------------------------7.67
36. raggd46-----------------------7.65
37. SineRider--------------------7.64
38. Wolftacular-----------------7.63
39. Xyresic------------------------7.50
40. TitanMusic------------------7.48
41. SilverPoyozo--------------7.47
41. garlagan---------------------7.47
43. ChronoNomad------------7.43
44. Metallica1136-------------7.37
45. BrokenDeck----------------7.33
46. DivoFST----------------------7.26
47. Mawnz-----------------------7.25
48. Braiton-----------------------7.20
49. SourJovis-------------------7.07
50. jvonm-------------------------7.02
51. Calamaistr-----------------7.01
52. Veneox----------------------6.98
53. WingoWinston-----------6.95
54. HalcyonicFalconX------6.94
55. Slug-Salt--------------------6.74
56. Quarl--------------------------6.53
56. Fleshbag--------------------6.53
58. LiquidOoze----------------6.33

Note some rankings are double because of ties. I'm 49 out of 58 people. Pretty bad. I expected a better reception of my entry. Not just by the judges. I thought it was the best thing I ever made. So time for a front page place, more views, better comments, favourites, fans, etc. Then again, the song itself didn't turn as good as I hoped. The singing didn't work out as well as I wanted and Frootza didn't have enough time to play the guitar, so I had to use samples. Guess I should be glad my opponent didn't show up then. I have to step it up a notch in the next round. But how can I if I gave it my utmost? Guess it's time for different tactics.

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Step 2013-08-10 18:18:33

This is awesome. It may defeat the point but it's a great way of allowing contestants to see how they did. Thank you :3.

SourJovis 2013-08-10 18:18:33

Thanks. Another way of looking at the scores. It adds something.

SoundChris 2013-08-10 18:20:38

Useful! Thanks for posting :D

SourJovis 2013-08-10 18:20:38

You're welcome!

BlazingDragon 2013-08-10 18:33:23

Thanks for doing this! I was considering making one myself, but you saved me the effort!

Now if someone was REALLY ambitious, they would make a chart like this but broken down by each judge. It would then have statistics such as average score per judge to see who, in general, is harshest or most forgiving. The chart could also feature a breakdown of the average score judges gave within different genres to see if they might have bias. And then it could also...

Okay, maybe a bit overboard. But I can dream. XD

SourJovis 2013-08-10 18:33:23

Yeah, if you're interested in knowing that it would be nice if someone made that chart. You could of course do it yourself. Still hard to say that way if judges are biased. Maybe they're just right and metal musicians are just better than house for example. Or they listen to how well it's mixed, and solo piano songs are better mixed than orchestral, so it seems they're biased towards piano but they actually listen to how it's mixed.

BlazingDragon 2013-08-10 18:35:31

I think it is really interesting how me and my opponent, Lashmush, are right next to one another on this list. Just goes to show how close some of these matches can be, and also how luck plays a huge factor in this contest.

Good job to judges for creating interesting matchups!

SourJovis 2013-08-10 18:35:31

It was close yes. Just like ZipZipper and SteamPianist. Also interesting to see how far I'm apart from headphoamz. I could've been slaughtered. Instead I got away without even a scratch. Maybe I should add who's eliminated and who not, that way you can see which of the high rankers didn't make it even though they made a great track. Such a waste good musicians don't get to make songs for the next round. On the other hand it's also interesting anything can happen, yet it depends on your skill as well. No matter how you're paired up, you can always defeat your opponent by making a better song (or lose when the other makes a better one).

Quarl 2013-08-10 18:47:42

lawl. 56. woot.

SourJovis 2013-08-10 18:47:42

considering Newgrounds is free community so the entire world (about 7,171,250,000 people) could've auditioned, that's extremely well done. Congrats.

johnfn 2013-08-10 19:35:17

Cool list!

I don't think it defeats the point cos it's not like everyone's going to submit the same song in future rounds. People could do much better or much worse.

SourJovis 2013-08-10 19:35:17

Thanks. Yeah that's right. But what I meant was this list has nothing to do with who wins and who doesn't. Like HalcyonicFalconX, Veneox, jvonm and me got respectively 54, 52, 50 and 49th place and still made it to the next round, while ZipZipper, Lashmush, SkyeWintrest and Camoshark respectively got 4, 8, 12 and 14th place but were eliminated.

Nimble 2013-08-10 20:02:46

#29? hell, that's a victory in itself.

Just focus on making the song sound good to you, as you did with this round, but just try a new genre, or a new idea- you never know where it may lead.

SourJovis 2013-08-10 20:02:46

Yeah that's pretty good. It confirms you belong to the best here. Thanks for your advice.

ForgottenDawn 2013-08-10 20:30:29

#19. Hm, there's still plenty of room for improvement.
Thank you for making this list, it's quite helpful.
//FD

SourJovis 2013-08-10 20:30:29

You're welcome. I think 19th place is quite good, but it's never a bad thing to try to get better.

EvilRaccoon 2013-08-10 21:42:48

Thanks for the list. Its a bit gutting though. Ranked 16 out of 58 and im out. :(

I think I'll continue making my entries anyway. Was about the participating, not the winning. :) thanks for the list!

SourJovis 2013-08-10 21:42:48

I know right. But if the contest wasn't a death match but just one round like most contests you still wouldn't have won. In any case you tried your best and made another song many people like. You can always try the next contest. Different rules. New chances.

InvisibleObserver 2013-08-11 00:04:40

Worth considering that several musicians probably tailored their pieces to hopefully match well VS their opponent. Whether they played the competition meta well or not may also be indicated in the scoring more than strictly the songs aesthetics, or the authors capability. After all, a sample size of one song is pretty limited. Hopefully anyone feeling dejected is aware of this!

SourJovis 2013-08-11 00:04:40

Could be. I thought 8Bitster would make something in an 8- or 16-bit style, so I put as much as I could into a song beside 8 or 16-bit. Hopefully the judges would think "8Bitster makes a good 8-bit track, but SourJovis can do all of that other stuff (piano, orchestral, metal, vocals) better.". I don't think that's how he judging works though. The scores probably don't depend on what the opponent does, so you're better of making a track that will get a high score independent of what genre the opponent uses.

etherealwinds 2013-08-11 08:26:37

Being a newcomer to Newgrounds, I'm baffled that, even with the highest of quality it seems from so many amazing musicians, somehow I reached 5th? That doesn't even seem right but wow. I'm really excited for Round 2! Well done everybody :)))

SourJovis 2013-08-11 08:26:37

Being a newcomer to Newgrounds doesn't mean you're a newcomer to music. Your song was pretty good so I'm happy the judges weren't prejudiced because they hadn't yet seen you around much. Looking forward to hear more from you.

garlagan 2013-08-11 17:46:44

Nice job with the list. I see i'm #41. Should've made my track in more than 2 days. Being a procrastinator sucks

SourJovis 2013-08-11 17:46:44

If you think you could've done a better job in more time then yes it sucks. It's not always about the time you spend on it though. Perhaps you needed the time off to load, or get inspiration. With me it usually takes a lot of time to make a song, and I spend as much as I can. I spent almost the entire 2 weeks on my entry and still ended 49th. (Though 2 weeks is actually quite short for me) Sometimes I make a song in only one day or a few hours, and they can be just as good as the songs I spent a long time on.

Phyrnna 2013-08-12 12:35:04

Whee, near the bottom! xD

SourJovis 2013-08-12 12:35:04

Haha yeah. But it doesn't matter. You got lucky and are still in. The exact same thing happened to me. Your song still got favourited and voted for quite positively, so apparently your fans like it. That's worth something too. Personally I think your submission was below your average. If you make something more on your usual level next round you'll probably make it.

Phyrnna 2013-08-13 00:52:56

Yeah, that's the general consensus, and I hate to admit it but I did kind of rush it a little. >.<

SourJovis 2013-08-13 00:52:56

That makes sense. Deadlines always get me too. From now on I'll never upload a song unless there's a competition, so I have a good collection of songs to choose from that I can brush up whenever I see ways to improve them.

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